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> Rampage<->charge with/without venom blade伤害测试
longbowyan
2018-07-17, 16:45
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这是一个party中即兴发起的测试,所以涉及的变量并不全面,比如重要的武器和tzarakk steed level的影响没能测试到,但从现有的数据也能看出一些信息,所以整理成这个帖子。下面进入正题。

>>>>>>测试环境<<<<<<
Player stats: Str: Superb (206+++) Dex: Incredible (158++)
Player skills/spells: Attack 143 | Charge 100 | Combat riding 82 | Mastery of mounted combat 72 | Negate offhand penalty 100 | Polearms 98 | Rampage 84 | Trample 100 | Cast poison 100 | Venom blade 80 | Knowledge of toxicology 100 |
Weapons: kraftigar*2
Tzarakk steed: flaming wyrm
Dummy: naked giant

>>>>>>Rampage<<<<<<
#Message:
Zoid shatters limbs and falls in a heap on the ground, whimpering.
#Damage:
255

#Message:
Zoid shatters limbs and falls in a heap on the ground, whimpering.
#Damage:
247

#Message:
Zoid shatters limbs and falls in a heap on the ground, whimpering.
#Damage:
240

#Message:
Zoid shatters limbs and falls in a heap on the ground, whimpering.
#Damage:
269

#Message:
Zoid cracks several large bones and wails in agony, falling like a leaf.
#Damage:
222

With venom blade:
#Damage:
242 216 255 242
(216伤害对应的message是‘falling like a leaf’,其余为‘whimpering’)


>>>>>>Charge<<<<<<
#Message:
You charge up and lance Zoid in the head, snapping it back!
#Damage:
201

#Message:
You stab downwards from your steed, nailing your opponent in the gut!
#Damage:
167

#Message:
You charge up and lance Zoid in the head, snapping it back!
#Damage:
204

#Message:
Your battle sense is at its peak! You drive your weapon completely through your
enemy, forcing the tip out the other side!
...And you turn suddenly and STRIKE again.
#Damage:
241

#Message:
Your battle sense is at its peak! You drive your weapon completely through your
enemy, forcing the tip out the other side!
...And you turn suddenly and STRIKE again.
#Damage:
234

With venom blade:
#Message:
You guide your mount with your knees and *THUNK* your weapon into your foe!
Zoid suffers as poison from your blade flows into its system!
#Damage:
211

#Message:
As your weapon strikes, you hear a sound that can only be vital organs
shredding.
Zoid suffers as poison from your blade flows into its system!
#Damage:
225

#Message:
You charge up and lance Zoid in the head, snapping it back!
Zoid suffers as poison from your blade flows into its system!
#Damage:
250

#Message:
Your pierce throws your enemy back, allowing you to trample it to the ground!
Zoid suffers as poison from your blade flows into its system!
#Damage:
252

>>>>>>结论(猜测)<<<<<<
+单从数值来看,没有venom blade的情况下rampage伤害较高且稳定。
+加上venom blade的buff后,charge的伤害与rampage不相上下。且从message推断,charge的最高伤害可能会超过rampage。
+venom blade对rampage的增益微乎其微。笔者曾试过不持武器施放rampage打出‘falling like a tree’的message,推测伤害在200左右,所以推断rampage的伤害应该大部分由steed冲撞组成。而venom blade是对武器的buff,所以对rampage伤害的影响很小。从此也可见bat这游戏设定的细致。
+venom blade对charge的增益很明显。可以对比message为 ‘snapping it back’对应的伤害数值,venom blade可以带来接近50的提升,即约25%的buff。
+另外charge的message为‘Your battle sense is at its peak’时造成了dummy的stun。
------以下为不负责任的猜测------
+根据rampage的伤害构成,steed的成长应该对rampage伤害影响较大,而charge只会受到一些steed技能成长的加成,所以在高rep的tz手里rampage应该威力更大。
+根据笔者的体感,轻而小的武器在施放速度为‘1+(random)/24’的技能时会用较少的轮数完成施放,所以在当前的测试环境下,venom blade+charge应该是个更好的选择(但ep消耗更大)。
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2018-07-18, 15:14
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tz有个技能貌似是能抓临时坐骑的?rep不够但是exp够的话抓一个会不会rampage很猛
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2018-10-28, 18:04
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rampage的伤害主要由trample和武器伤害两部分组成
空手的时候不管有没有MA技能
描述都是You are not wielding appropriate weapons for rampaging, so you try to beat your
mount into an even more ferocious attack.

测试时 str: 130 dex: 132 size: 72
坐骑 radiating wyrm
attack: 117 trample:92 charge:92
MA: 112 rampage:60 throw weight:80

伤害稳定在200-203

持武器时武器种类的影响比较大,主要是size,感觉越大型的武器伤害越高,
测试时 str:181 dex:72 size: 92
坐骑 radiating wyrm
attack: 151 trample:90 charge:90
polearms: 100 rampage:90 throw weight:95

双持zhentorian death lance伤害为240-320,遇到过几次报400+的可能是测试对象lag了导致trigger出错
双持krafigar伤害为220-260+
持盾忘了测了

venom blade不是对所有off skill都生效,rampage恰好不吃,比较亏
charge没有仔细测过,拿zhentorian lance捅180-300的都有

受测对象统一为裸体dbv
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